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Trad Climbing 12 January 2007 - 15:16:17 Posted by Freak      

Dave Macleod sends Blind Vision, E10 7a

The new year started pretty well for the Scottish trad master Dave MacLeod!

Dave Macleod Blindvision
Dave MacLeod on Blindvision - ph:

In fact, despite the poor weather conditions, Dave Macleod made the second ascent of Adrian Berry's Blind Vision, E10 7a, at the Brown's Eliminate area of Froggat (Sheffield - UK).

This route has two main parts. The first is a boulder problem, Slingshot, 8A (V11), and then it carries on on the wall with the rest of the route.
Slingshot has been first top roped by Jerry Moffat in 1988, and then soloed by Mo Overfield in 2000.
Adrian Barry has been the first to climb the all thing back in 2003 using, has a protection, a WC Zero 2.

Apparently Dave used a different gear to protect the route.

The grade?!?
Let's give space to Dave worlds from his blog
"So here we go once again - another E10 repeat and the same tiresome process of deciding ‘what grade is it in my opinion?' It would be so nice to sidestep the whole shebang. The primary reason being that it always overshadows the important part; the climbing. However, it is important nonetheless and I must give it thought. If you are interested to hear, I'll think aloud right now... (if not I don't blame you!!)

What are the facts I have to go on then?

Blind Vision took me three 1 hour sessions of top roping (curtailed by rain) followed by a lead in less than good visibility. It comprises of a highball (but not exceptionally highball) Font 7c+ or 8a, followed by an E8. But the boulder problem is hard enough to prevent a good proportion of E8 or even a few E9 climbers succeeding on it.


Other feelings... Blind Vision is definitely easier than If Six was Nine (which I have done the moves on during a 30 min session on the way home from Breathless). Its also easier than the Scottish E9s and I'd say it felt like 2 grades easier than Rhapsody. However, its harder than Breathless and Divided Years (but then they are E8s!).So these days I am getting more confused about the difference between the grades at E8 and above. My plan (weather and work permitting) is to try to repeat more existing hard trad soon. So I should do that first and then I'll have a clearer idea of what E9, E10 and E11 mean.

[continues on]

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